Attending one of the Sanford-Brown Institutes? Your educational and even financial future may be looking cloudy.
The Career Education Corporation (CECO) recently announced the discontinuation of Sanford-Brown Colleges.
Keep reading and find out what this means to them and their loan debts. Click here for more details.
Sanford-Brown College and Institution Closing Its Doors
But Don’t Panic Yet… I Will Go Over Why in Just a Minute.
We read the full press release from the CECO. There will be a short summary of what it means for the students attending the College or Institution.
Sanford-Brown’s parent company announced their new strategy a couple of years back. This points to its resources and focus towards their regionally accredited universities. It consists of Colorado Technical University (CTU) and American InterContinental University (AIU).
Sanford Brown closing all schools and online programs have already begun. The goal is to help on a re-focusing strategy.
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This Means that Sanford-Brown’s Doors Will Slowly Shut rather than Slamming Shut on Students, Faculty, and Staff
But when it Comes to Those Directly Impacted…is There Really a Difference?
The CECO released a statement about their decision to move forward with a teach-out route. A teach-out will lessen the negative impacts on faculty, students, and staff members.
The teach-out will go into effect immediately over the 14 different Sanford-Brown Colleges. This includes Sanford-Brown online.
Many of the full-time employees and students have been released from their positions. This move is leaving students with more questions than answers.
It will take anywhere from 2 to 3 years to for a full teach-out of institutions and colleges. Minimal resources and scheduling will leave people that lingering thought. How many students will stick with campus class offerings?
So, What does the Sanford-Brown Teach Out Mean for Students?
There are over 30,000 enrollees in the Sanford-Brown College Online division alone.
The students who are about to graduate within the next year or so may not see the change affect them as much. But, students currently enrolled in the college or institution will.
Feel any Better Yet?
Some of you might feel blindsided, abandoned, and angry. For many students, the duration of the teach-out program will only be a mere part of a full college term.
When the College and Institution’s doors do close on these students, what are they going to do?
Sanford-Brown campuses provide students with an array of expensive programs. Students who attend Sanford-Brown accumulate an average of $65-85K in student loan debt. This debt range is two to three times the cost of attending a public college or university. There’s no doubt the average debt of Sanford-Brown attendees will be high.
Students must find a way to continue their degree elsewhere or drop out completely. Otherwise, they will continue to use federal student loan money while inevitably being kicked
Employment Path for Affected Students
Where will these students turn considering the people they grew to trust started to disappear from campus over a year ago and have continued through the announcement yesterday?
Many of the students impacted by this decision will have trouble finding employment in their niche field. It’s either because they may not finish their degree or because of the negative press, this decision will have on how employers will view their degree.
Yet, most students need to pay off their student loans. That is if they drop less than half time and/or choose to discontinue their education during the “teach-out process,” regardless of whether or not they can afford to do so.
They may find many of their credits will not transfer to other colleges. Many will feel the trap to accumulate more student loan debts.
Students have felt or already feel as though they don’t have to repay the loans because the school is closing. But in reality, they do and will have to start paying them back right away.
There is a help to uncover the options available, including lowering your student loan payment and portions of your loans being forgiven.
While the discontinuation of Sanford Brown Institute may have left their students feeling stranded and helpless, there are choices those students can make to get to where they want to be in their educational and financial future.
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There are a few updates we want to include here to stay on top of this:
Debt Forgiveness Settlement: In 2019, a significant settlement was reached between Career Education Corporation (CEC), the parent company of Sanford-Brown, and 49 state attorneys general. This settlement provided $493.7 million in debt relief to over 179,000 students nationwide. The settlement also included reforms to CEC’s recruiting and enrollment practices to prevent future misconduct (Attorney General)
Borrower Defense to Repayment: Students who believe they were misled by Sanford-Brown may be eligible for loan forgiveness under the Borrower Defense to Repayment program. This federal program cancels federal student loans if the school engaged in misconduct related to the loans or educational services provided
Closed School Discharges: Students who were enrolled at Sanford-Brown at the time of its closure or within 180 days of its closure might be eligible for a closed school discharge, which forgives federal student loans if the student could not complete their education due to the school’s closure
Scams and Fraud Warnings: Following the debt relief settlement, there have been reports of scams targeting former Sanford-Brown students. These scams often claim to offer assistance with debt relief in exchange for personal information or advance fees. Authorities have warned students to be cautious and avoid giving out personal information or paying for such services (Attorney General).
What can you say about the discontinuation of Sanford Brown? Share your thoughts in the comments section below!
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Loria says
I had to withdraw due to health issues and when I went back Sanford Brown – Fenton was closing so I could not finish my last quarter of my billing and coding class.
Deevahn says
I graduated frm the NYC branch…how can I receive my official transcript cause I’ve been wanting to take the certification test for MA ?……
Robin Thurman says
I graduated from Sanford brown nursing school in 1995 . I consolidated my loans over 30 years and are still paying for them. With the school closed or closing is there a way to for go the rest of this loan or do I still have to continue paying on it. I thought i heard there was a loan forgiveness being done
Andy says
I know this article is old, but this is the first time that I am hearing about it. I attended Sanford-Brown Seattle in Tukwila Washington from 2012 until 2014. I Had just escaped ITT tech before it eventually came crumbling down. Towards the end of my degree, corporate decided to “shorten” / Cram a semester’s worth of lessons into a single 4 week course. and this continued regardless of our complaints, but I was unable to do anything about it because I was half way to graduating when they made the switch. So I feel kind of cheated out of a degree and a proper education. Is there any way that I can get money back, or to have them refund my post 9/11?
Rosana Medina says
I attended Sanford Brown 2005-2006 for medical coding and medical assistant. I was never able to find a job . I just recently finished paying my student loans off. I just want to know if I can get reimbursed for what I paid ?. I wasn’t even able to use my credits at another school even though I was told I would be when I signed up .
Gina Jean-Louis says
I attended Stanford Brown in 2011- 2012 I’m stock with a loan which they didn’t tell me anything about
Amy says
Hey Gina,
I am sorry to hear that! We’d love to see if we can help you come up with a game plan for this unexpected loan. Please give us a call at 877.433.7501 to speak directly with one of our experienced student loan consultant
Grant W says
I attended Sanford Brown but I paid out of pocket is there any way I can get a refund back?
Amy says
Hey Grant,
If you’d like some more information on what can be done, please give us a call at 877.433.7501. One of our experienced Student Loan Counselors will be able to go over your loans and all the options you may have.
Jenny says
Hello my name is Jenny
I was in the 2012 Class In NY and I paid off my loan but now I don’t have a job for what I went for I would really like my money back I’ve tried going to another school and they same my credits are not valid or can’t be used what was the point of me taking all those classes just for them to not transfer I would really love my full tuition for something that is worth absolutely nothing 30,000 down the drain when I could of gone straight to nursing school . Please let me know something can be done having that money would mean the world if I could actually use it toward a career that will benefit me . Me and my family feel so cheated from this school .
Colon Dudley says
I attended SB and when they closed I was left to pay student loans and the govt garnished my tax returns. I want my money back… is there anything I can do?
Agar H Reyes says
reading all these comments and Im in the same situation… I graduated in 2008 as Medical Assistant and I never couldn’t find a job Im still paying the loan and I still own same balance. We need to take some action….
christopher says
i was a sanford brown garden city NY graduate of the medical assistant program in 2012. If the school is closed and my certificate means nothing, then why am stuck with a 10,000+ loan that i cant afford and a job that doesn’t pay close to what we were led to believe.
Darci says
I’m also a Sanford-Brown graduate from Jacksonville, FL for their Medical Assistant program around 2012 also. Very frustrated by this. Seems private loans are being forgiven but not federal? Sanford-Brown fed us a bunch of bull to get us enrolled and I’m outraged at my experience with them.
Maria says
Please add me if there is a class action law suit. malu202@hotmail.com
Fay says
If the school no longer exists and the degree is technically voided why do students owe any money? Why do students still have to pay student loans?
Because honestly the students don’t have a degree, so therefore, what are they paying for? and why?
Amy Blatterfein says
That’s a great question, Fay! It seems really unfair to the students, and i’m sure a lot of them feel your frustration.
Have you looked into options for your student loans yet?
Kimberly Soto says
I went to Sanford Brown I believe in 2009 or 2010 in New York, not sure it’s been a while. I have graduated and promised to get a job as a medical assistant. They did no such thing and their teaching at the school was HORRIBLE! Till this very day I am struggling with my loans and at the moment I am not working. I had a baby last year so I’m a stay at home mom because no one in my family can watch my son, not even my husband’s family because they live 3 hours away. So I really need help with my loans and I paid off my student loans forgiveness and still nothing happened. I paid $600 for the student forgiveness! So I don’t trust anyone cause now I’m paying off my credit card with what ever I get.
Amy Blatterfein says
Hey Kimberly,
Unfortunately, this is an extremely common situation for Sanford Brown graduates. They were all promised a lot of things that were never delivered.
If you’d like some information on student loans, and what you can do to possibly lower your monthly payment to fit within your current budget, please give us a call at 877.433.7501. One of our experienced Student Loan Counselors will be able to go over your loans and all the options you may have.
Best of luck!
Veronica says
I attended their Ultrasound Program in Atlanta Ga, and graduated in 2003. Needless to say, I am not working as an Ultrasound Tech. I am still paying back the loan I took out, and the amount I owe is basically the same. I will die and still have an outstanding debt on my student loan. I see people are talking about suing. I wouldn’t hold my breathe. I heard the same thing back in 2003, and people who attended their programs before then were saying the same thing, and nothing. The best thing we can do is post our horrible experiences, and hope that other people will heed our warnings and this horrible organization will collapse altogether, and have to close all of their doors. We need to get the word out that these schools are a ripoff, and hopefully people will stop attending them, and they will go out of business.
Veronica
Veronica Ogle says
Does anyone have any recent information about the class action lawsuit? Thanks
Amy Blatterfein says
Hey Veronica,
Great question! For the most up to date information about Sanford Brown and their former students, please check out this follow up article: https://usstudentloancenter.org/whats-next-for-sanford-brown-students/
Mark Lindeman says
I have sat here and read these stories of these people getting ripped off by Sanford Brown College and my heart hurts for these people. Unfortunately for me, I am a parent of a child that has to go through the same crap. I don’t understand why there isn’t a class action lawsuit against these crooks. These kids were ripped off by the ol bait and switch tactics. I hope that all these people that have had a hand in this burn in hell and that karma takes a big bite out of their asses!!!!
SHAWNIKKWA CHEAVER says
My name is SHAWNIKKWA CHEAVER and I’m a July 2012 graduate of Sanford Brown NY Institute / Medical Assistant Program with a 3.50 GPA… I successfully completed my Externship. After finishing, I hadn’t received any positive results with employment and therefore, sought other opportunities. I had an opportunity to obtain permanent employment, which required 39 credits from an accredited school or University. Therefore, on Tuesday, October 30, 2012; I requested in writing & in person with their Registrar Office to have my 900 hours converted to credits, to no avail.
I hadn’t even been notified about graduation. I found out about graduation from a classmate, the day of. So, I didn’t get to take that walk across the state either. My career advisor didn’t even assist employment, as advertised.
Sanford Brown NY Institute, got their money off the top… Five years later, I’m unemployed and struggling to pay back the loan. I hope to receive some positive feedback soon.
Amy Blatterfein says
Hey Shawnikkwa,
I totally understand your frustration with your school. It’s a terrible situation to be in after putting in all the effort to get your degree.
If you’re struggling repaying your student loans please give us a call at 877.4337.7501. One of our experienced student loan consultants will be able to go through your loans with you and see if you’re eligible for a lower payment.
Good luck and we hope to hear from you soon!
Savannah says
I feel your pain the Sanford brown located in Virginia did the same thing, I finished in 2012 and once done i called them numerous times and showed up many times asking for my certificate since I was unaware of graduation still till this day i was never able to sit for my certification exam once they found out they were closing no faculty showed Any concern or was willing to help.
Andrea says
I attended Gibbs College in Norwalk Connecticut in 2005…I was ripped off by Gibbs with all the promises of job placement and everything else…my credits are not worth anything at all…I am in deep debt for nothing!!!!These for profit schools are just raping people and getting away with it…..here is my email if you have any info about a class action lawsuit andreawrentz@gmail.com
Kelly says
I would like to get in a class action suit against them too. $50000 in debt because of this school for nothing. I’m not doing what I went to school for and not making enough to pay the loans I took out for it. The Ultrasound program was a joke. Outdated machine, staff always changing, horrible teachers. Never got my certification and no credits transferable like they said!!! If there is one someone please contact me!!!
Chris L says
I want to sue the Accreditors who allowed a ‘school’ whose credit could not be transferred to exist under their names
Cliff says
I attended the Stanford brown online and to say the least was the worst experience of my life! I live in Pittsburgh which the schools online interactions ran off off central time which only catered to the professors leaving me no time for actual help other than watching archives multiple times cutting valuable time from family and obligations, and when I said the program was moving at a pace I couldn’t continue to follow especially being that learning script code and building templates isn’t easy and once I told them that, they were perfectly fine with letting me fail the class only to have to retake the course when I was stuck and clearly couldn’t move on asking for help and wouldn’t!
Now I’m not making excuses but I had several learning disabilities in high school but really pushed through this school in my best attempt but they were so misunderstanding of the way I process information at a slower rate and that 2 courses in a week was entirely tooo much for my my student advisor wouldn’t cut my classes to one a week enlight of my struggles, knowing that this isn’t how a college should be ran, just to let a student fail because of courses being in 5 week increments with no time for help is when I wiped my hands with the school at my expense on debt.
cliff630559@yahoo.com
Tyra says
I put out a request for someone to look into a Sanford Brown class action law suit for misleading information about accreditation. I was told that all my medical assisting classes would transfer towards a nursing degree but they did not. I can’t even take the test to become a CMA because the medical assisting board does not recognize SB either. 2 years, all the money and time is gone.
Cathy says
If there is a lawsuit I will like to be part of it.. My email latorrecathy@aol.com
Evelyn Jackson says
I have found a site called classaction.com check it out I am going to see what I can do. GOD help us all.
Evelyn Jackson says
Please add me I have attended Katherine Gibbs school in Boston. I graduated in 2004. I’m still in debt and have no career in what I studied for. I can’t transfer my credits. and I can’t start school over with out that. The school in Boston faked a petition saying we become an accredited school if we get everyone to sign this petition everyone signed it no change I had no idea that this was a thing at the time. That I would never be able to put my hard work into good use.
Tina Hardin says
The parenting company oc sanford brown still is in business and in Illinois. I cabt rememeber the name at this time but anyways we need a lawyer will to take them on because everyone is on here is the same thing really. Im stuck with 50,000 in loans an almost finished Bachelors degree that means nothing because credits wont transfer and will never be able to afford to pay tge loans without a degree
Rose Nazario says
I would like to sue the organization as well. But I’m wondering how it will be possible if they’re closed down and mainly because they lost a $10 million lawsuit against former students? I graduated from my MA program in the NYC branch 12 months ago, I worked as a receptionist at a medical office for 6 months. But I have yet to work as an MA. It is unfortunate that I took out loans to be able to take classes in order to become an MA and I have nothing to show for it. rimoprof@gmail.com
Tami jo says
Was her name Rosie Rodriquez? I think she married some guy from the school . I would like to sue also
Donna Thorp says
If there is a lawsuit I would like to join in also! I was promised to make $40,000.00 a yr as a dialysis tech I never received my certificate. I went to the N loop one in Houston Texas. When I moved back to Ohio I was told I would have to go back to school for 6 months because the State of Ohio Board of Nursing didn’t recognize Sanford Brown as an Accredited School!! So I am back to being a Phlebotomist which was what I did before I went to Sanford Brown an stuck with a student loan I can’t pay and shouldn’t have to pay.
Krista says
If there is a class action suit, add me as well please. kristagemini@yahoo.com
My name is Krista, and I graduated from their Jacksonville, Florida Campus in 2007. During my time there they had several different presidents, and my program kept getting slashed; then I was left to actually FEND FOR MYSELF for an entire semester period, because there was no teacher to teach the course! I was given a book to read, and tested on what I read. It was unacceptable! I did launch complaints, but nothing was ever done. Also, during the course of my enrollment, we were told that our initial tuition was going down, and we were told that we had to sign new contracts. (which I did) Then we were told that the school would pay back our lenders. When I talked to my lender, I was told that the school never made any payment to them. I was still stuck with the same balance. I called the school for that, I was given the run around by the financial aid department, I went down to the school , and no one would talk to me!
I did manage to go on and pass my state boards, and get my license. However, is that now void?
Jennifer moquete says
Please help me im in debt since 2009
Katie Bentley says
Hi Jennifer,
We’d be happy to help anyway that we can. Give us a call 877.433.7501 option 3. There’s several programs offered by the Department of Education designed to help student loan borrowers with their debt. The problem with those free programs, is that they are often difficult to understand and time consuming to complete. Our Student Loan Counselors will help you figure out the best route for you to take and even take the reigns throughout the whole process- essentially relieving the majority of the high stress student loan debt often brings. They can even help lower a monthly student loan payment! Looking forward to hearing from you and helping you out 🙂
KB
Wendy says
I was in the Washington branch, they not only charged me the loans but they had skipped me passed the intro classes into classes beyond my level, said they wouldn’t charge me for the courses that I was put in by mistake, billed me for those too and said that my credits would transfer when the school closed… All LIES!! I have not heard from them except a collections notice for the debt that they caused… Now, I face losing my apartment and my car because the debt is counting against me!!
Erica Eakins says
Good luck I’ve been trying to get my transcripts since 2013
Erica Eakins says
Please add me too if there is a class action case. Sanford Brown really screwed me over and left me in debt! Eakins.erica@Yahoo.com
Sarah b says
Please, please I would like to sue too. sarah0223@hotmail.com
Jazmin says
Please add me if lawsuit takes place. I graduated from the MA program paid out of pocket with the false illusion my credit would transfer and expedite my career path to be a nurse. Promised to help me look for a job and guaranteed I would have a job. Now the school doesn’t exist so if it was already hard to find a job I’m sure it will only be harder now!
shelly ahenn taylor says
I am
Kg says
Please add me to your list if a lawsuit takes place …gondakathryn@yahoo.com
Kate says
Please contact me if a lawsuit takes place, I too attended.
Princesspinksock@yahoo.com
Sunshine miles says
Deffy email me at sunshinelmiles@gmail.com! I almost graduated at SBC and no colleges would accept the credits I had earned! All of the time invested and hard work as well as money was invested for nothing! They told me that other colleges would accept SBC credits. They lied to me!
Tayler says
This happened to me as well. I was waiting to get back in at the right time (someone had to fail out so I could take their seat only when my class came back) to have the school close on me. I’ve been working off $40,000 in unused loans and non-transferable credits. I’m fighting to have my loan discharged as we speak.
please keep me in the loop. Tgarapola92@yahoo.com
Melissa N says
please email me when the class action suit is available at missy26@gmail.com
Wendy says
Please let me know if you find any info about this! The same happened to me!
Tia says
I would sorry for typo
Tia says
And didn’t hire any blacks it’s a damn shame all that time wasted good teaching poor career services the girl Rosie sucked
Tia says
Sorry about typos externships and hired is wat i meant
Tia says
Same with me I graduated in 2004 sandford brown institute nyc only ppl got hired was Hispanics and they weren’t even certified yet they was on some discrimination shit none of the blacks were hired and we were placed at externdhips thst didny hite while the hispanicd eere placed at externdjips thst hired all we got was loans we can’t afford to pay I wonder if they do a statistics check they will see that hardly no blacks got jobs we should be able to sue and our loans should be voided permanently without prejudice were is the Justice they still got my transcripts on corporate hold
Tia says
I have a 3.0 GPA for medical assistant for nothing my loan rep was Sallie Mae now it’s called NAVIENT I need my loans suspended or forgiven the point of taking out a loan with the impression that I wouldn’t gain employment in the medical field and be able to pay it they straight conned me my loan needs to be erased who do I speak to I’m from nyc
April says
I received some paperwork regarding a class action lawsuit and I was included in it, there has been several years and I have yet to hear anything further. I am stuck with 55,000.00 in student loans with an Associates Degree that is pretty much worthless because of the institution not being accredited as they claimed. A complete rip off. I am trying to get these loans forgiven and dismissed. Contact defense to repayment if you would like to do the same. I haven’t been successful yet but I will not give up until they are gone. We should not have to go through all this hassle seeing as the school wasn’t legit to begin with.
Edgar F Greewood says
I had this happened to me back in the early 90’s from a placed called Gateway Electronics. I canceled classes but in instead they kept me enrolled and kept the loans that were supposed of been canceled. I hear ITT TEch is going through the same thing. There is no way a school that should charge so much for classes that are not accredited or no chance of a real job. You are stuck with loans that you will never get to pay off because of the never ending interest rate. Good luck they should be paying for you to go back to school.
Mimi says
Is there a class law suit ? I want to SUE them FAST!
Chris Jackson says
I worked in admissions/recruiting for Sanford Brown for several years. We advertised the sonography programs to get prospective students to visit the campus, and then it was my job to switch you to the medical assisting program. I was trained to make you “feel the pain” about how bad your life is, how bad your job is, how hard it is on your family with you being unemployed/underemployed. Then came the bad news that you aren’t qualified for the sonography program. You need a 4 year college degree and you need to already be working as a medical professional. Then I showed you the light at the end of the tunnel. Just complete the medical assisting program then you can apply for the sonography program. This was about 95% of my prospective students I worked with. I got tired of scamming people and completely got out of the business.
Flor says
I unfortunately fell for this scam when visiting the campus in Manhattan. I initially was interested in sonography, but was told exactly what you stated. Now I’m in debt, credi messed up, and since graduating, have had issues getting a job in the field (not that I really want one because I didn’t want to be a MA to begin with).
It’s sad that they trained people to scam potential students, but I’m glad you decided to leave & I’m glad they closed down too.
Patricia says
Sorry to hear about all the scamming that went on at Sanford Brown. I, too, must have been scammed because I did not qualify for the sonography program on some mathematical based test they gave. Took the medical billing and coding 9 month course instead. I knew there was trouble when my 6 week externship company simply took me on for cheap labor and made comments about there was no use to become certified in Medical Coding ($500 cost) since computers did most of the coding work anyway. Years later I tried to transfer what should have been viable credits to the University of Houston which they did not recognize. The government does not recognize Sanford Brown as closed so I remain responsible for the school loans attained with Sanford Brown’s help.
Erica Willis says
I will i was down the same with sanford brown in granite city illonois owed 10,000. Defaulted on it because i couldnt find a job in that field. They took all of my grant and i had to get a loan.
Heather Ortega says
I have called the Florida attorney general numerous times and they told me they can’t help me ! Who can help us how can this school get away with this ?
Heather Ortega says
Email me as well I want to sue them
lexisautumn@gmail.com
Heather Ortega says
Anyone interested in filing a lawsuit if we get enough people to do a class action suit we have a chance I was thrown out of the Jacksonville program by the animal they employed as director
Nikki Dawson says
I will
Eileen Garcia says
This is ridiculous. If there is a class action suit against them please let me know!! I’ve been trying to get someone to help me & the lawyer I spoke to told me there’s nothing they can do. I graduated in 2004 & was never helped as they “promised” they would do so in career placement, etc… Now stuck still paying off $28K loan for a degree that’s practically invalid anywhere I go because schools won’t accept them. This is not right & something should be done!
Aleshia says
I graduated from the radiography program in 2001 that Sanford Brown offered (Fenton MO). I recently looked into continuing my education in health administration only to learn that my credits are not transferable! I would have to start all over again and still pay on the 15k I already have in federal student loans. Why do I have to pay loans on a college that told me my credits would transfer but they do not?! All that hard work and my transcripts are useless.
Evonne says
I started Sanford Brown St Charles in 2005 in the RN program. However I didn’t complete the program and I was then informed that the program was not accredited and it was going to move to another location…..St Peters. That was a must further drive for me so I then started to weigh my options. In 2006 I then decided to go to business for myself and I then enrolled to Sanford Brown of Fenton……they placed me in a program that I did not want to go into. I caught that one quickly. I withdrew due to medical issues for a short period of time and came back….this was an expensive hassle. I graduate with my associate degree in business administration and management. Career services…..I do not know why or how they had a job. However they told me that I need to come back to obtain my bachelor degree in business administration in order to make a difference in the workforce. I graduated in 2011 and to this day I have not had a job in my field of study. This was definitely a waste of time and energy
Jennifer Coggins Simoes says
I went to the school in Tampa, Of. I graduated in 2004, & I got hired from my exterenship. But I ended up quitting that job of 8 months Cruz they wouldn’t up my pay when there was only one other girl working there & sheade all theoney but I did all the work! I tried to find work for years afterwards but never got hired anywhere else, along with no help from the school with the many,many times I called asking the to help with job placement. Now, when I was thinking of going back to school to get a higher degree to finally get a job I find out that I’m stuck & don’t know what I’m going to do if the course doesn’t count!!?? Although I am disabled now; I still wanted to go back to school. What can I for now??
Dacia says
I attended Sanford Brown in Jacksonville Florida from 2009 – 2011 for their Diagnostic Cardiovascular Sonography program. I was informed that I would first have to take their Medical Assistant course first, and then the Sonography course. I was the top of my class in both course and was made all of these promises by the staff that I would have a great career in no-time. My husband had transferred all of his veteran GI Bill benefits to me so that I could go to school. After $55,000 (yes..$55,000), and nearly 5 years later; no one has ever considered my Sanford Brown degree and I have never been able to work in either field. It was truly a horrible scam! If anyone knows of any form of action that we can take, please let me know. Thank You.
Ciara Quaintance says
this is very true/I went to their medical assistant ($13,900) program because it was required to enter their Ultrasound Program ($35k ). SBI kicked me out of their Ultrasound programs multiple times for ridiculous reasons and attempted to get me enrolled back with them .I paid out of pocket $7k to attend that school. After 3 and half years I have nothing to show for it but $40k in loans.. Its very depressing and it is causing a major stress on my family now because I cant get nothing from a car or house due to my credit.
Veronica says
I am so pissed with this damn school! I went to this school to get into the nursing field like I’ve always wanted & for what!? Just to be in debt thousands of dollars ! I graduated in 2010 and was never able to find a a job because as soon as they found out what school I came from. I tried to continue my education in our local community college and to my surprise the credits weren’t transferable! They fed us nothing but lies just to get us to sign up! They never put any effort into job placement or career counseling like they said they would, AND they lied about our credits being transferred! This is one of the reasons why I started this school was to transfer mycredits and continue to become an RN! Now I have to start all over! My classmates I went to school with are in the same boat, never got a job as an MA or pharmacy tech (the field we went to school for) I went to school in Houston tx.
If anyone know how to start a class action suit against these people or if anyone is in the process of one of love to join! This is very unfair!!
Brittany says
I also went to the one Houston…. TOTAL SCAM. Credits did not transfer at all. When I went to enroll in college to continue my education for RN they laughed when I told them I wanted to transfer my credits.
Buffi says
I attended and graduated SB in 2006. I currently have a good job even though it’s only PT, my employer is very stringent with its employees. I talked to my supervisor about the paperwork needed for the loan forgiveness program and told her about the school shutting down. She had a look of worry on her face and said she would have to forward the paperwork to HR and said they will need to check and see how this will affect my credentialing. Now I’m worried. Will this shutdown have any affect on my current certifications and licensing?
Heather Nicole Gallagher says
You know, maybe some people chose this as a last option, but this has been my DREAM for a long time. I cried the first time I saw the labs. I worked hard pregnant and with medical problems. The way I see it, you owe us, because your right I’ve been looking for over a year and still have not found a job. I REFUSE to pay to a school that lied to me to get my money in the first place.
Amy says
Tiffany did u go n misouri?
Gene Carnley says
I went to the school as well received a bachelor’s degree in Fine Arts for video game production only to be told by anyone that I try to get a job with that I would be better off not even presenting it. I am not 87 and a half thousand dollars in debt because of this and I am contacting a couple of law firms in the Orlando area to see what I can do about bringing a civil suit against them.
Eli Ortega says
It is true that we have to take responsibility for our own actions but the school also has to take responsibility for their actions as well. I was blessed that I was able to find a job (on my own because career services would not help you, even though they did promise to at least assist you-Big Lie). But a school should be held accountable for making false promises, when I first spoke to a admission adviser they told me that they were accredited, which ended up being a big lie because when I went to different schools in the area they told me without hesitation that they did not accept any credits from this school. So I ended up having to go to a community college where I had to start over from scratch with many of the basic classes that I had already taken. The saddest part is that many times you are fooled and given false information but you still end up being stuck with a big loan (mines was $50,000) for a degree that too many employers and other accredited schools view them as useless or worthless. I graduated in 2010 from SBC in Virginia, and in the first three years I struggled to find anyone who was willing to hire me within my field, which made me look for work outside my field and ended up getting minimum wage jobs just so that I could pay my school loans, because when I was unemployed I had to go into deferment (in which my interest got capitalized). Those first three years were a nightmare, but for those who are probably stuck in this same situation right now like I was; I just want to tell you have hope and know that after the storm the calm will come. I will pray that anyone going through the same situation that I went through those first few years after college, will find an answer and solution to their problems. I have also contacted a Borrower Defense that are helping many students that attended Sanford Brown College and you can contact them at 1(855)279-6207. I recommend anyone that attended this school to contact them in order for them to initiate an investigation. The problem here for me is not about a college degree that ended up being worthless, but if you want to look at the humane side of this they took advantage of many people that probably did not know the difference of what schools were accredited and because of that many ended up with a student loan that they may not even have the means to pay for with interest accumulating every month (and being that the degrees are expensive for no reason compared to a public school), we must stand up and raise our voice against something that is NOT right. The website for the number I provided below is http://www.studentaid.gov/borrower-defense. Please everyone contact them to make this case stronger!
Cora says
I as well attened this so called great credible shit hole…if you figure out how to start a civil lawsuit email me bootslady765@gmail.com
Tenika I says
I was a Sanford Brown Student from 2009 to 2010. I was not able to finish the program due to a death in the family and medical issues. I tried getting my transcipts from the school but I an being told I owe them for withdrawing from the school. I need to know how I can get my transcripts from them!
Adela says
contact these people, it took me forever
Adela says
records@careered.com
Gene Carnley says
Hello,
My name is Gene Carnley and I also attended Sanford Brown. I have contacted the Attorney Generals office and spoke with them about the school and they said that the school has been on their radar since 2010. They told me to get as many people as I can to go to MyFloridaLegal.com and file a formal complaint. Once you go to the site look for the red box under Pam Bondi’s picture. Then click on general complaint and fill out the form. They took me for 87,500.00 and I cannot even get anyone to look at my degree. I am reaching out to as many students as I can and would appericiate it if you would help me to pass this information along. The more people we get the better our chances are at having a case. My email is carnley.gene36@gmail.com if you have any questions.
Mallory says
I attend Sanford-Brown Institute in Orlando, FL between the dates of October 2010-March 2012 in hopes to further a career in Ultrasound Technology. Before completion, the school informed me the program I was attending does not have the proper accreditation for me to obtain national certification to become a registered technologist after the school is completed. I was always told if I considered to drop the program, I would still be liable for all costs of the loans used for the program. Due to not being accredited and for me not being able to obtain certification, I know have these school loans bringing me more and more in debt as time goes on and unable to obtain a job due to the failure of information from the school prior to signing up for the program. I have contacted the Great Lakes loan corporation about this issue and the response I received back is “Repayment of your loan is not contingent on the failure of the school to deliver on any promises or claims it may have made, nor is it contingent on your evaluation of the education provided by the school.” If there is any information or advise that can be given to move forward with disputing these loans to either be forgiven or lowered, I would appreciative all the help. Thank you.
James says
What about all of the Student that Used the GI-bill… robbing out Vets on a leg up after putting their lives on the line. Not able to transfer credits?
Precious says
i went to sanford brown college form 2010 to 2012 and i thought i had an associates degree in medical assistant but come to find out the school was a lie i was told it was a accredited school and my stuff will transfer now that i’m going back to school again i just found out that i have to start over so i’m looking to sue them for the lies because if they wasn’t accredited then I should not be in debt of over 50,000 in be no where in life. so i need to know where do i start with my law suit cause i’ll die owing sanford brown college.
Veronica Leonardo says
Please let me know if you find the answer to this, i went on the same year, no luck with a job, no credits to transfer, and had to start school all over again.
Jacklin says
I went there ages ago and have nothing to show for it. We should figure out how to do a class-action suit.
patter says
O I totally agree I was there from 2008 to 2009 and I did the nursing program and a lot of the places I went to interview at told me to my face they would not hire me because of going to that school even though I got my diploma. also I tried to go back to further my education and was told none of my credits would transfer and I had already owed 38000 so I was hoping not to incur anymore charges than needed. so if you find out I would like to know also!
Willie Dominguez says
I graduated from Brown College in Minneapolis back in 1997 from their Radio and Broadcasting program. I obtained the associates degree, not the certification program. I was told back then there would be “lifetime job placement assistance”, “We want our grads working to show what Brown can do for others”. I drank the kool-aid big time.
When I graduated, I went to their job placement department. What did they do for me? Give me a book of radio stations and a quiet place to start calling them. I was so incensed. I did all the work. I found my own job. They didn’t lift a finger to help me. So I went on my way, had to get out of the field for a short time. Wanted to get back in a couple of years later. I called on the “lifetime” help they promised…nothing. Never a call back, no email, no letter…nothing. They got their money and I got to put I have an associates degree on my resume. Not the trade off it sounds when I don’t even work in the field I studied for. Still haven’t been able to pay off the loans I took. So much debt, a stinging reminder of how I was messed over.
Katie Bentley says
Hi Willie,
What a fiasco- Sounds like you’re dealing with several headaches within itself, let alone being stuck with the loans. Give us a call if you’d like! We’re still helping hundreds of SBI students and grads who are going through similar circumstances find relief from their loans.
You can call us toll free at 877.433.7501 (option 3) to speak with a Student Loan Counselor. Best of luck and hope to hear from you today!
-Katie
kbentley@usstudentloancenter.org
Jacklin says
What I got out of Sanford Brown was a debt of $40,000 that I will never be able to pay. What a farce. Can we start a class action lawsuit?
Jacklin says
I’ll join!!!
Patricia Lathan says
Hi I attended Sanford Brown and can not find a job in my field as a medical coder. And I have an outstanding loan balance. The problem is most colleges do background checks when you are going into the medical field which they did not and because I have an background no hospital will hire me. What can I do?
Katie Bentley says
Hey Patricia,
I’m sorry, but I don’t think I fully understand your circumstance. Could you maybe clarify?
Thanks!
– Katie
PS. I happened to stumble across your name today in our system and when I saw your name here in our comments as well, I knew you sounded familiar! Your designated Student Loan Counselor, Cleveland Matthews, tried to contact you earlier this morning to discuss your student loan situation with you and see how we can help you. Go ahead and give him a call back on his direct phone number, 813-501-6475. Cleveland is one of the best and will work hard to get you what you need for student loan relief. He’ll be tonight until 6PM EST. Cheers!
Virginia Salazar says
I graduated Sanford Brown Houston in 2012 needless to say we had to fight to get our graduation because our campus was going to start closing. I’m in debt and I am working but I was told my credits will transfer and now I’m finding out through here they won’t?? Another question I was made to believe that we could also test for the phlebotomy of which I wanted to do but as it was I had to fight to get them to pay my RMA testing, I went into SB wanting to do ultrasound but was told it required me to do 6 months in Medical Assisting I graduated Medical Assistant but was never offered to do the ultrasound I originally wanted, I still have all the paperwork of the program and slot of it I did not get. I graduated with honors, perfect attendance and deans list yet owe so much money for something I didn’t originally want ! I wanted to go back to school for ultrasound and now I’m finding out my credits won’t transfer!!!!
Charles says
I owe about $3000 i am enrolled in a program where i pay $5 a month for 6 months and the debt will lower to its original amount which is $2,357 but even when it goes down idk how am i supposed to pay what they want me to pay after…its a struggle and idk what to do…
Jennifer Douglas says
I also attended at Sanford Brown Institute in Orlando ,Fl. I attended classes for Medical Assisting . I have not been able to find a job in this field I’ve been stuck working as a cashier at a gas station. I went into this field cause I have always wanted to be in the nursing field. I feel as though this school was a complete disaster in every way possible. I had nothing but a bad experience with them and now I’m stuck with student loans I can not afford to pay back at all . I have three kids to support and I feel disappointed that I don’t have a job in this field to be able to afford my student loan repayment and take care of my children as well. I’ve had to apply for government assistance which I hate. I don’t feel like it is fair in any sense of the matter that as many students from this school with these same issues should be responsible for all the repayment of these loans. Now we will surely be in debt for the rest of our lives and our families suffer too. I would like to know what my choices are because in all honesty I can not afford this loan repayment at all. I would like to go back to school for something more worth my time and money
and this mistake is a burden in every way possible. I need to move away from this so I can push forward for me and my children.
Tiffany says
Straight to the point Sanford Brown got over. I graduated in 2005. I had to pay out of pocket and get loans. That’s just straight disrespect to whom ever trusted them and said that they would play with people lives and money.
Tiffany says
I am an alumni from Sanford Brown located in Florida in 2005. Career services never helped me. What will this do for my Medical Assistance Diploma? Also I paid with my money out of pocket and loans. This is very discouraging and hurtful that they will play with people lives and money like this.
INGRID says
I AM A SANFORD BROWN ALUMNI 2011. I STILL HAVE NOT PAID ANY AMOUNT TO MY LOANS. I AM UNABLE TO AFFORD IT. THE SCHOOL DID A HORRIBLE JOB (CAREER SERVICES) AT JOB PLACEMENTS, THEY WOULD SAY, COME AND SEE ME, SIGN IN, AND WE’LL SEND YOUR RESUME OUT. BULLSHIT! THEY WANTED TO ADD STUDENTS NAME ON THE SIGN IN SHEET TO MAKE IT APPEAR AS IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY ASSISTING STUDENTS WITH JOB SEARCH AND INTERVIEW. NOW THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE CLOSING DOWN, I STRONGLY FEEL ALL LOANS BE DROPPED! JUST LIKE INTERBORO INSTITUTE DID BACK IN 2007 OR AFTER. THE BEST THE SCHOOL DID WAS DROP ALL STUDENTS LOAN, LEAVING US STUDENTS/GRADUATES WITH A CLEAN SLATE TO BEGIN ELSE WHERE.
Katie Bentley says
Hi Ingrid,
Thanks for your input. You have some pretty eye-opening and excellent points to share! Sorry to hear that you had such a horrible experience with your student loans and your school’s career services. We would love the opportunity to try and get you out of this frustrating mess… as you can see, this news was released just 3 months ago and so far we’ve already been able to help hundreds of Sanford Brown students and alumni get in a better position!!
We’d love to help you out too! Give us a call toll free at 877.433.7501 to speak to a loan officer (open M-F, 9AM-6PM EST) or feel free to email me your contact information and I’d be happy to put you in the good hands of one of our best loan officers.
Hope to hear from you soon!
Katie Bentley
kbentley@usstudentloancenter.org
(Oh, and if you’re still having some trouble with job placement, be sure to ask us about our awesome referral program we have going on where our affiliate partners have been able to take home easy, extra money. Seriously, they’re getting some serious cash– I wish I was allowed to to do it too!)
Heaven says
Hey Ingrid, I am an Sanford Brown Atlanta Alumni 2011 also. I totally agree they should drop all student loans. They did a horrible job placing students when it came to job placements. I was one who did not get place and It took me almost a year to find a job and I had to set up an payment arrangement with the student loan people.
Michael says
AIU students are they included?
Ashley says
I Graduated with High Honors (a 4.0) from Sanford Brown in May of 2012, as a Medical Assistant. I have paid some of my loan back but due to no help from the school getting a job and not finding a job in the medical field, I had to put my loans in deferment twice already. When I graduated the school called me one time and send they sent out my resume to ONE place. After that I never heard from them again, and all the resumes I sent out and jobs i applied for have said Sanford Brown is not accredited school, which they said they were when I started there. They told me a lot of lies when I went to admissions, but that’s besides the point. Is there any help I can get regarding this matter?
Katie Bentley says
Ashley, we help students like yourself who have felt lied to and who have ended up stuck with student loans find a way to help you manage or get out of your student loan debt easier and faster, even if you are having trouble finding a job and even if you have already had your loans in deferment more than once or couple times. Please give Student Loan Counselor, Dawn Wolff a call at 813.579.6588 to discuss your options. As you may know, deferments are meant to be a temporary fix to a problem and if a borrower uses a deferment as more than that, you could be doing more damage than good! So find out sooner rather than later how you may be able to get help or get rid of your loans by reaching out to Dawn by phone or her email at dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
Cheers,
Katie
MM says
Its Gibbs all over again. I attended Gibbs (later merged with Sanford Brown) in 2007 and it ended up closing. So many students were upset that it was closing and then the bomb dropped about them not being accredited. The school was like a ghost town after those announcements.
I was over going to the school before it announced its closing because the classes didn’t really teach me anything(learned far more on my own) and I was suppose to be a night student yet they scheduled me for day classes. All around the school sucked and I wish that I would’ve just went to a community college. To this day I wonder why I even went to Gibbs.
My spirit was broken for a while. I wanted to give up on getting a degree but now I hope to go back so school(A REAL SCHOOL) after paying off these fraud/scam loans. It really sucks that I have to redo all the classes because the credits I earned are garbage. I hope someone files a class action Lawsuit someday.
Greg says
I graduated with honors from Sanford Brown N Loop W Houston,TX in 2010 as Medical Billing and Coding Specialist. This campus was plagued with problems for the duration if my course and beyond. Subsequently closing. I was promised Jo placement assistance,career advice,told as a grad I could attend any campus anytime for a refers of the MBC course at no cost. I attempted to do just that a few months ago, at the Sanford Brown College Campus on Richmond Ave in Houston. They gave me nothing but grief the entire time I attended. The instructor piled on tons of homework she knew damn well couldn’t be completed in 2 days. I was pulled aside and told to keep my mouth shut about problems with the N Loop Campus and problems I had signing on to the college campus. Both sites promised job placement assistance and never followed thru. In fact the instructor for the MBC course who was the chair for the program never responded to e mails sent by me. In fact I had to miss class 2 times, once due to work,once due to severe weather. I called both times and sent an e mail both times informing I couldn’t make it to class and why. She responded the second time saying I was dropped from the class because of attendance issues. No one at the campus would respond to my request for information or assistance with Jo search or placement assistance. I feel I’ve been ripped off by these clowns. I’m now stuck with a student loan I originally took from Salle Mae U S Dept of Ed. This loan is huge, I’m still not working in the field I trained in. What options do I have?
Katie Bentley says
Greg,
If the student loan you have through Sallie Mae US Dept of Ed is a Federal student loan, there could be several great options for you. Based on the information you have told me so far, it sounds like you could see some serious relief from that loan you are stuck with. I encourage you to reach out to Dawn Wolff who is our Senior Collegiate Loan Counselor. She has specialized in this area for many years and she can go over your options in full detail in mere minutes with you. It could be well worth a few moments of your time! Please reach out to her directly at 813-579-6588 or dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org. Thank you!!
PS. if you’d rather, feel free to leave us your contact info with a phone number and a good time to reach you and I will be happy to pass it along to Dawn
yalanda h says
I attended sbc in collinsville il. did very well. It closed in jan 2014. I graduated in aug 2013 from the mbc program. I excelled highly. Went on several job leads and interviews. Still haven’t found work. My debt is almost $50,000….and I’m scared of that! Hindering me from working on a bachelor’s degree…I feel like I was misled or played some how
Katie Bentley says
Yalanda,
$50,000 is a lot of money for a degree that you can’t find a job with and I completely understand why you feel scared. I’m sorry to hear that you’re having to live with that. For many, an outstanding student loan balance can hinder them from pursuing more school. We would need to collect a few more bits of information to understand how we could help you but based on what you have told me so far, I believe that there is help for you. I encourage you to please reach out to Jaina Johnson or Dawn Wolff who are Senior Student Loan Counselors. I think either one would be a great fit for you to speak with for a few moments to go over your some options you might find helpful
You can reach them at the following:
Jaina Johnson-
Direct: 813.579.6684 and Email: jjohnson@usstudentloancenter.org
Dawn Wolff-
Direct: 813.579.6588 and Email: dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
Derinda says
I too, went to Collinsville, I graduated in 2008. I never heard from the school again. Not for job leads, interviews. Nothing. I am now unemployed and feel it’s most obvious that my “degree” isn’t helping me. Is there an option still for me as well?
Derinda
Katie Bentley says
Derinda,
We can help you with the federal student loans you may have acquired while attending Collinsville. Please reach out to Student Loan Counselor, Dawn Wolff at 813-579-6588 to speak to her about how you may be able to get help, as there are several different options for people that are in the same situation as you. You don’t have to feel stuck with no options.
Shelly says
Graduated summa cum laude from SBC in North Kansas City MO in 2000. The campus closed a few years later. I have used every avenue available to get my transcript and have been told by the corporate office that they have no record of a campus in North Kansas City. I guess that several thousand other people and I must have been having the same hallucination of having gone to class every day for 18 months. My opinion: this overpriced scam should have been shut down years ago. Tuition fees are outlandish and the “entrance exam” that EVERYONE passes…in hindsight, I am embarrassed that I got suckered.
Kristy Gilmore says
I had to contact Colorado Technical School to obtain copies of my Sanford Brown Transcript. I now am in the process of trying to obtain proof of accreditation.
Adedamola Odegbo-Olukoya says
What is the hope for international students?
Katie Bentley says
Hi Adedamola,
If your loans are taken out through a U.S. Department of Education approved loan servicer, there is hope for international students who have federal student loans. Please feel free to contact us to discuss your situation in full detail and to start getting help with your federal student loans today. Contact a Federal Student Loan Counselor toll free at 1-877-433-7501 or please feel free to email us your contact information so we can have a counselor reach out to you. Thank you!
Cheryl Williamson says
How can I get my transcript?
Katie Bentley says
We are not affiliated with Sanford-Brown or any other educational college or institution. Please contact the school to collect this information.
Tori P says
The sad thing is all these students that attended SBC have or has the same issue. Unfortunately I graduated from SBC in 2006 in the MA class Collinsville, Illinois. I was on the President’s list & once we completed mostly half the class didn’t get places for jobs. They sent everyone job leads through an email that had students from the surrounding areas attached. How unfortunate that we as graduates have the same exact problems, & now with the school closing completely, we’re stock with paying for these outstanding student loans that should be wiped away from our credit… SBC was a complete & utterly joke!!! I wouldn’t have suggested this school to an enemy!!! Not to mention, they send u to extern sites that they know wouldn’t & couldn’t hire u… Just like in an above comment, “God don’t like ugly”
Shannon E says
I graduated from SBI as well, in western PA and while I found a job with a temp agency it was exactly that. Temporary. My degree that I earned from them is almost entirely worthless and when I went back to school to get my nursing degree, I learned that not one of the credits transferred and I ended up having to pay to take the same classes all over again. I too think that all outstanding debt from these schools should be wiped out simply due to the fact that they misrepresented themselves and grossly over charged!
Shannon E says
Oh yeah, and I had a 4.0 GPA from day one through graduation so no one can say that I didn’t work hard and try my best. I now tutor nursing students in their pre-req courses.
Jen P says
I graduated from Sanford Brown in Monroeville, PA as a Medical Assistant. While I did find a job, it wasn’t making nearly as much as I was told I would make. My boyfriend graduated from Sanford Brown in Pittsburgh, PA as an Anasthesia Tech. He had a very hard time finding a job, but he got one that pays less than what I make. If it wasn’t for us living together, neither of us would make it. We are barely making it now!!
One of my instructors was a chef by trade. She was teaching pharmacology. She did not know anything about the course. When we would ask her a question, she would tell us to just Google it!!
Very sad that I am drowning in student loan debt to make less than 15 an hour!
May says
I agree completely. I graduated 2007 in Hazelwood, no help finding a job, they gave us open book tests. I typed one paper double spaced and got an A, next guy to me, wrote in his in pencil, half a paragraph and got an A too, this school was a joke. I took an accounting test at a job interview and failed it but I got a 3.96 GPA from Sanford Brown and an associates in accounting, yeah right! A big joke!
Kaitlin F says
Reading most of these comments, I am reminded of the entitlement attitude that we face today. I enrolled in SBI in Woodbridge with a newborn, took the night classes, worked hard to study, and graduated with an almost 4.0 grade average. All A’s with a couple B’s. Graduated in 2015. I had two job offers before finishing my externship. I am still at the job I chose, I work in an urgent care facility and have learned a tremendous amount from being there. I am now enrolling in a RN program at a community college. These programs are what YOU make of them. They are NOT obligated to find you a job. It is your job to act in a way that an employer finds you desirable. It is YOUR responsibility to learn! I am thrilled I have the education I do and I worked Damn hard for it! I am a CMA and CPT. Took both of my certification programs which is why I am where I am!
Taylor says
You made me feel so much better, as I am a student of SBC and I have been doing fine. I’m not happy about the doors closing, but all these comments scare me. But then I wonder, why are they expecting the school to find them a job? If they want the help, shouldn’t they call instead of waiting by the phone? Anyway. I hope I have an experience like yours.
Latrice S Wynn (Mills) says
I graduated in 2010 and still paying the STUDENT LOANS, does this mean we are no longer obligated to pay these loans if the College is. closing?? JUST ASKING!
Katie Bentley says
Latrice,
Unfortunately the closing of the school does not mean that you are free from paying your student loans back. Students and graduates of the Sanford- Brown community will still be responsible for paying back any federal students loans that they acquired while attending the school. There are several government repayment programs that can help you pay your loans. Please contact us if you feel you need help with your loans at 877-433-7501.
ellie says
Wow that’s crazy I attended to sbi in 2011 I never learn anything good there my instructors were never in class and my financial aid Was mess up now that school is shut down I regret going to this school now I’m stuck with student loans. What am I supposed to do ?
Mike T says
I graduated SBI in 2005, was hired the very first day, you get out of the program what you put in, I worked hard in the lab portion, a lot of my classmates just went home early, scanned every opportunity during internship and was ready for a scanning interview right away, most of my classmates were not but can’t blame SBI(although they did)been in ultrasound 10 years now and know I made the right choice of where to go to school. I’m saddened to hear my alma mater will be no more.
Naté says
I previously graduated SBC Cleveland in 2012 for. MA I found a job as a phlebotomist which I love! I went back to SBC for the CVS program in 2013 and after 2 months was told about the teach out they were doing…the teacher that actually taught the sonogram part the class along with other classes quit because she had to find another job and the program director took over as the teacher…he was terrible and very unprofessional! I complained to the director of the school who didn’t believe I had a problem with this program directors teaching despite starting out with 15+ students in the class and when I went to her I was 1 of 4 students left. I had to drop out because I was not getting a fair education from the program director, I had A’s and B’s before he took over and when he stared teaching I learned nothing! So on top of not getting a good education I am now in major debt. I feel betrayed by the school with their lack of compassion for the students. I feel so sorry for anyone else who was put in my position and now I have to repay money that was pretty much taken from me.
cw says
i went to tysons corner SB & i completed all my classes for my AAS did my externship & never got to graduate or get diploma…took out loans to start said everything was paid but near end said i,owed took, got a grant for more than what was owed never got a reimbursement check & still tried to say i owe. not going to bash SB but they are shady.
Kiesha says
I am swimming in debt from my ms program and I am on fmla from the associate degree program and did not know about them closing so will I not get to finish school now and still have all the debt to pay with no job
Chantel says
I graduated from sandford brown in 2012. I am surprised they are closing . School was expensive and I still them probably 12,000. They sent me on one bad externship , but the second one was great . At the end of the day I found my job myself . That’s the only thing I don’t get why do people lean so much on them finding your job for you . YOU have. The diploma / certificate , and hopefully the knowledge to go look for and find your own job . Don’t wait on anyone to do it for you that’s your job . a school that scared me was Georgia medical institute now known as Everest now i owe them money and I didn’t even atten for more than a month . Also I had to pay $800 out of pocket . Sandford Brown I paid nothing out of pocket and I am now working as a medical assistant .
Anita says
I graduated from SBC in Boston in 2012 with degree in HIM and still not working in that field. In order to work as a healthcare manager you have to be in the field for at least 5-8 years, something they don’t share with you when they are making the suggestion for you to take the loan out to pursue this career. The career advisers are a joke. They are salesman pushing numbers. I also have had the most difficult time getting my transcripts. This is very sad, how much money I now have to pay back for absolutely nothing.
Dakota says
I went to Sanford brown in 2012. I used the money from my trustfund that was raised for me when I had cancer at a young age. Little did I know that letting the school know my medical history was my biggest mistake because they kicked me out because of it. But when I asked for my remaining money back for the classes I didn’t take they looks me I never paid them and they never got a check… I have been fighting with this school for 3 years and still have nothing to show for it. Please don’t make the same mistake I did..
Brenda says
Need help on my loans from Sanford-Brown! Can some of them be forgiven. No job! Hard ! Just need to know some information!
Katie Bentley says
Brenda, please reach out to us to go over your situation in detail. There is help and potential forgiveness on federal loans that we would love to discuss with you. You can reach out to a student loan counselor toll free at 877-433-7501. Look forward to hearing from you!
Nakia says
I attended SBI and graduated in 2013, I was on the deans list the whole time and I loved the school. My instructors were awesome and always there. I went to an allied health office for my internship and was able to use everything I learned. I was truly Blessed. I got a great job with the first company I applied for and I’m still there. I must say I keep in touch with a lot of my classmates and they have also been successful with medical asst positions. For me it was a fabulous experience.
deanna says
Nakia thats great! im saddened by my unfortunate circumstances that I had and being unable to graduate. I was so close
William says
I studied to be a Nurse at Sanford Brown College in Missouri. I had four months to graduate. My father passes away in Florida. I had to leave for a week to bury my father. I asked permission they said it was alright. Do what I have to do. When I got back they tell me about the all or none law they have. They told me I had to start from the beginning again. So after almost a year in a half of study they wanted me to start from scratch. You could image how hurt I was . I just left it at that. Nothing I could do. I was a private school with its own rules. Nothing could be done. Now I owe student loan money.
Dawn Wolff says
Nakia,
Thank you so much for your comment…and congratulations on utilizing your degree. Feel free to contact us should you decide to look in to options for repayment of your student loans. You can refer your friends as well.
dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
Susan says
Wow. The amount of whining in these comments is unbelievable! “The school lied to me”, “no one got me a job”, “I can’t pass the boards”. Here’s a grown-up thought: take responsibility for your own actions. I graduated from an SBC program in 2012 and am gainfully employed as a CVT. I passed the VTNE on my first shot a month after school ended and have been working since. I researched student loans before I took them out and, again, researched payment plans when I had to start paying them back. Being a CVT is far from a lucrative career but there are enough student loan payment options that I don’t feel overwhelmed each month by the amount of my payment.
Enroll in a traditional higher education program. See how much they help with job placements and debt payments. No one is hired to hold your hand. Be an adult for a change.
Kelly says
I totally agree with you. I graduated from there in 2005 ( I know a long time ago) where they told me my credits would transfer. They didn’t and I had to start all over at a new college. I’m stuck with a certificate that in unrecognized by other school and medical office. A long with that I am still paying a $20,000 dollar student loan.
They seriously do need to take responsibility for there action.
What a joke
San says
I attended the Houston campus. As I externed at a hospital for Surgical Tech I applied to the hospital’s customer service department. I had over 3 years experience in that field and also as a loan officer. Thankfully I was hired on by the hospital no thanks to the school but due to my previous work experience, once I finished my externship I applied for a Surgical Tech opening in several other facilities including where I worked. I have never had any luck with a position that I went to school for and I am in huge debt. I am greatful I build my own experience and worked my way up with the facility I work for to management but it was no thanks to the school or training received there. I secured a management position through my own work ethics and dedication to myself.
Gwen sherman says
I went to Sanford brown in 2012 graduated with a 4.0 they wouldn’t help me find a job and now I get even get the copies of my transcript so I can ho back to school Sanford Brown was by far the worst school I attended the career services department was and still is a joke and couldn’t place fruit in a paper bag let alone help you find a job. I’ve been going to the campus I graduateted from trying to get copies of my transcript but its a new school now so they say they can’t help. What a huge waste of time and money and energy.
Dawn Wolff says
Gwen,
Although we are not affiliated with SB…you may want to call the National Clearinghouse to see if they have copies of the transcripts. You could also try to call Career Education Corporation (the parent company of SB) to see if they might suggest how you could receive an expedited copy of your transcripts. I have heard students have found success in doing this.
Marien says
I went there and graduated in 2009 and thanks to them I am in a great job and because of the loans was able to get a down payment for my car that is now paid off in full. IT WAS more expensive than the alternatives but oh well what can I do about that now?
Katie says
I emailed you Katie Bentley please get back to me immediately if possible I have some serious questions about all of this
Thank you !
Katie Bentley says
Katie, thank you- I just had Dawn reach out to you. Looking forward to helping you!
Jane says
I also went through SBI and was told they was going to help me get a job. I graduated Jan. 2010 and has had no luck in the medical field. The hospital I wanted to work at told me they do not take people from SBI. This made me mad. Now since I haven’t worked since 2008, I’ve had to apply for disability. I still owe on loans and am super mad cuz they are on my credit score now.
Katie Bentley says
Jane, there is such a thing as a disability discharge for federal student loans. If you have a medically determinable physical or mental impairment or are a veteran with a service-connected condition, you may qualify for a discharge, based on a total and permanent disability.
Please contact the Nelnet Total and Permanent Disability Servicer for further information and to obtain an application.
Phone number: 1-888-303-7813
Email: disabilityinformation@nelnet.net
Website: http://www.disabilitydischarge.com
Or speak to our own representatives who have expertise in student loans and credit score restoration at 877-433-7501. Ask to speak with Dawn Wolff for student loan help or to be transferred to Monique Martin for credit score restoration questions. You may also visit https://www.nationalcreditfederation.com/contact-us/ for credit score restoration help
Rachelle says
I went to Sanford- Brown in Jacksonville Florida. I got a job right after but am not able to get another job and now I’m paying off on a loan for I feel like nothing. I feel like that school was a joke! I shouldn’t have wasted my time.
Casandra says
I attended SBC-Granite City, Il, campus in 1998. I still haven’t gotten a job yet. I moved back to MS and the lady at the employment told me that Medical Assistant was just a glorified CNA. I don’t inderstand how a $13,000 loan ended up being close to $30,000. I applied for the total disability discharge and all they took off was $8500, I’m still left with a big debt.
Dawn Wolff says
Rachelle,
Please reach out to us to find options for your student loans. I am hopeful we might be able to assist you as we have others.
813.579.6588 or dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
Lindsay Concannon says
Sadly I agree. I graduated from SB in 2013. We were one of the first schools to be “taught out”. I was told by my financial aid advisor that my student loan would be less than $100 a month and not to worry because they would find us employment by the time we graduated. I was a deans list student and graduated with a 3.9 GPA. My advisor for externship put me in a facility with promises of employment. My review was stunning from the externship site and stated, ” I would love to have her as a permanent team member”. In the end, there was no opening at that particular site. I now have $11,000 of student loan debt and working a minimum wage job because SB has a bad reputation. Also, while some of the teachers were good, some were unprofessional and had to use textbooks riddled with errors. How do I know? They fully admitted that the textbooks were inaccurate…especially the medical terminology books. Also, our local news channel teams came to our school towards the end of our “teach out” trying to get answers from the dean. He didn’t even have the gumption to tell the media the lies he fed us when they made us sign “mandatory” contracts constituting the “teach out” program. He ran out of site the minute they came. This company seems to have a knack for teaching out and coming back to a different name. Our school used to be Katherine Gibbs school. And wouldn’t you know it? Our student loans for financial aid do not come up at Sanford Brown..it’s Katherine Gibbs. What a coincidence huh? I believe we should be forgiven of our loans and this school should pay for their deceiving ways to sucker people like us who are desperate to have a future. Shame.
Sarah Uberstine says
I attended Sanford Brown in 2011 for their surgical tech program. Worst decision of my life now I’m stuck with this stupid loan! Worst school teachers were awful. They only like to take your money.
Dawn Wolff says
Please reach out to us to find options for your student loans. I am hopeful we might be able to assist you as we have others.
813.579.6588 or dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
ZsaZsa Floyd says
I graduated in 2009 from SBC
From the MB&C program. My externship was a joke. I never did any MB&C I did medical records . I put out 200+ resumes and application weekly for 6 months and no job even with references from Dr and other employees from various hospitals. I am over $35,000 in debt now my certificate is no good. I was told that they did not recognize the school as accredited. Had so much stress and feel like I was taken advantage of and tricked. This is bs because they said I could come back anytime for life to get a refresher course. Now with them all closing I missed my opportunity. Worse $ I spent.
Nia says
It’s sad to see I’m not alone in this SBI mess. I attended SBI in. 2012, and I still have not been able to get a job as a medical assistant and wondered if it was because of the school. I was very displeased from start to finish, but had to stick it out because I had already put myself in debt. I wish those who are being thrown under the bus fine a way to counteract this mess. We all should file a class action suit against them. There are several grounds I believe to uphold in the courts.
TS says
Nia I graduated in 2010 and same thing. No job from their degree but heckling amount of school Loans and debt!!
Aleah says
Nia, I’m so glad to see I’m not the only one in the exact same situation! I completed the Medical Assistant program with a 4.0 at Sanford Brown college in Indianapolis, IN. In 2010. Since then I’ve been able to gain TWO MA jobs, both of which companies relocated. I also, wondered if this was due to SBC/SBI, and surely it is. I went to employment plus, an MA recruiter laid it all down in front of me. “It is highly impossible for you to get an MA job, 98% of employers around here (south central IN.)will not hire graduates from SBC/SBI. My advice is to go back to school if you’re looking for a successful career.”
Jamie Edie says
I attended SBC over 10 years ago. I was told the college would help me with job placement and when it came time refused to help place me. They told me I knew how to use the internet and create a resume so I had to do it on my own. I was always on the deans and/presidents list and had A’s all the time. I had head hunters wanting me until I was assaulted by my ex and landed in the hospital. I had to leave during the quarter and was allowed to make up work from home…..all except one class which instead of working with me or dropping the class the failed me so my GPA plummeted because of one F and no one wanted me after that. I have never been able to get a job in my field which was IT. Now everything has changed so much all I know is outdated. I owe 10s of thousands of dollars and can’t get a job to show for it. I also went for my BS and made it half way through the program. I was told the school was no longer going to have the program and I needed to look elsewhere. They said they would not hold classes for only 3 of us. I was suggested to drop out so I did. As soon as I did and I no sooner got downstairs and the other two told me they were going to continue classes for just them two. I also put a LOT of hours into The CERT team and did a LOT of work for the college with a promise they would let me take tests for Certifications in exchange for an x amount of work and they never did. I spent all that time for nothing. A lot of prospective employers sneered when they found out I went to SBC and always gave the jobs to others. Even when it was an entry level position they would wait and then give it to someone else that came along even when they had enough experience to get a regular position. I feel that I got screwed and stuck with the bill. Not to mention all the sexual harassment that they tried to hide and cover up.
Rae Lynn Jagemann says
I graduated in 2012 and still no job, i cant even begin to tell u the amount of resumes i have sent out
Last year i sent emails to career services asking for help and never heard from anyone. Now i have a huge debt that i cant pay, not to mention that now i can never go and take my last 2 certification tests. Going there was the biggest mistake i ever made, most of the teachers and classes sucked, in some classes u didnt even have to do all the work but u till made the deans list. So im left with a huge debt and a useless diploma
Im all in on suing the crap out of them for selling bullshit to people.
Donna Poole says
Highly disappointed in Sanford Brown during my intern they sent me to an insurance company I really wanted to intern at the hospital or a doctor office now that I’ve graduated everywhere I put in at they’re saying not enough experience I wound up working for a mortgage company to me it was a waste O now have student loans up my behind the old saying god don’t like ugly
Katie Bentley says
Donna, that sounds like a pretty interesting outcome you had there. Is there any chance that you would ever try to get into the field you went to school for? There are different programs available to those in the medical field that may help with student loans. If not, I still have some good news- Whether you decided to stay with the mortgage company or enter the medical industry, there is help either way!
I encourage you to get in touch with Dawn Wolff, who can discuss some of these options with you. After a short conversation, you may find that the student loans once up your behind, can now be left behind 😉 (thanks for setting me up to make a corny joke)
PS: You can reach Dawn directly at 813.579.6588 or dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
Missnickey78 says
I went through all this as well. Thousands of dollars in depth, graduated with a 4.0 and that’s right, still can’t find a job. The exterrnship for my class did not earn me clinical experience as it was at a group home. I was dupped and now I have wasted a year of my life and numerous dollars and for what?
Tasha says
I attendes here years ago. I had medical issues and then a baby. I was finishing and had car problems. One lady even threates me the extern coordinator saying she would make my kids motherless. And so i was at a site and she was budy buddy with the lady at this aite and then was told thwy disnt want me there and was no longer aloud to attend. This school is a sham. One techer should never had been teaching there as he was giving false information that we were to learn and if you correctes him he would say im the one who does this for a living. He didnt even no what manuscrip waa like really. Now i have these loans to pay back and cant. Im a single mom of three. Oh and yes police were called and nothing happened. I have been so dicustes with this school glad there closing.
leslie says
I attended SBI as well and I liked the program and loved my teachers. One of my fav teachers that I and others learned so much from was fired because he was” too harsh” yes he played around but I learned more from that playing around and “harshness” than from most my other teachers. As for the getting a Job part, they promise to help you by sending your resume out and upselling you to the job places and not once did they do this for me. They didnt do it for really anyone in my class. Most the students got hired on at their extern site. My first site wouldn’t teach me enough and so I got moved to another place which didn’t keep me because I lived and hour and A half away and Didn’t want to drive back and forth for a perminant job. Now I can’t find anyone wanting to hire Me because I don’t have much experience and have been out of school for over a year and have still have loans to pay back that I can’t afford.
Rae Lynn Jagemann says
The school got me fired from my first externship cause i asked them to find me a new place cause i wasnt learning anything at the one i was at and i guess they didnt believe me cause they called the place and told them what i said and they fired me, i was trying to keep it between me and the school as to not cause any problems but i guess they got mad cause they had to do their jobs, so after fighting with the people at the school i got a new externship and what i difference, at the first place all i did was filing and alot of walking around, at the second place i did everything. I wasnt trying to be unreasonalbe i just wanted to learn everything i could to be better prepared for getting a job, but the school didnt give a shit about that..
karina says
That is the same exact thing that happened to me! The school did nothing to help me. I had to pay some of the school tuition out of pocket and I couldn’t afford the high payment plan. Now I’m stuck paying these school tuitions and loans and I can’t even get a job in the field I studied in. Its completely terrible.
Katie Bentley says
Karina,
There are options for the high payment and student loan that you have from attending Sanford-Brown. Please contact Dawn Wolff at 813.579.6588 to discuss these options. Thank you!
Chimere Degrate says
This school is very unorganized. I was told that I had to take medical assist course to get into the sonogram program. Then later find out that it was not true. They screwed me on my certification and I never found a job. Now i have to pay the loan back. I think all they loans should be wiped out do to false advertising. School SUCKS and it was not a great learning experience for me. Being a pin cushion for the needle stick of your peers to pass the class was not my favorite. Majority of them didn’t know the first thing about healthcare. I have been a Tech for 12years. It should have had some stipulations on some of the classes offered. Like beginners with beginners. Advanced with advanced. Bottom line is that I don’t feel anyone should have to pay their student loan back. It should be dismissed.
Katie Bentley says
Chimere, sorry to hear you had a tough time with getting the certification you needed. Sounds like you were completely misinformed which is a shame because now you, like so many others, are having to deal with the repercussions. There is help for thousands of people struggling with the loans that their school left them with. Please contact us to discuss your options with a student loan counselor toll free at 813-579-6588. You may be happy you did!
Angelica says
Same thing happened to me Now I’m in debt for something i cant even get a job in this whole school was a scam promising students advancement when all they wanted was our money some teachers seemed to really care about their students but others including administrators only cared about you while you were in the process of becoming a student after that they didn’t even remember my name….. We shouldnt have to pay for scams and false advertisement… HATE THAT SCHOOL
Kimberly herget says
I totally agree… with everone. All we have gotten from them was broken promises, false information and a LARGE School loan Debt and no good outcome from any of it. They couldn’t even keep a teacher. To much turn over and not enough teaching us the info needed for what we were there for. I’m very disappointed and ashamed.
Cindy says
That is the same reason I got into the M.A program, now come to find out I didn’t need that. It really sucks now I am stuck paying this money for something I didn’t want to do something I only did to get into the sonogram program.
aisha says
I went through the same this as everyone else on here. Lies and more lies. So to the people this happened to, why can’t we form some type of class action lawsuit. I mean I wouldn’t feel comfortable paying these loans if they did nothing they promised. Maybe if we did we may not gain any money but we could be completely relieved of the loans we took out. Just a thought.
Katie Bentley says
Aisha, I am so sorry you too have felt this way. You are not the first one I have heard this idea from. For most, the loans taken out with Sanford-Brown were borrowed through the federal government. While the loans are sitting there unpaid, they are only accruing thousands of dollars in interest and going no where fast. Unpaid loans can lead to default and eventually wage garnishment- which at that point, options for help may fade quickly. It is against my better judgement to advise people that have student loans to sit through a lawsuit while paying no attention to their loan balance at all. I think it goes unsaid that many students and graduates have felt mislead and treated unfairly, so I understand your frustration. Many people are upset about this so if there is a lawsuit to be filed, please make sure to at least make sure your loans are in the best possible situation if the lawsuit does not go through. Hope for the best but also plan for the worst. Your future self will thank you! Please contact us for questions about gaining control of your student loan at 813.579.6588 Best of luck!!
danica says
I truly agree, I graduated in 2008 and still haven’t found employment as a Medical Assistant. Student loan has hurt my life and something needs to be done.
Catherine Cariss says
Every time I paid money for official transcripts they were never sent to the requesting school. I went in person without receiving them, and faxed the requested documents and still nothing. I have paid money 3-4 times without transcripts or a refund for previous requests not being sent appropriately.
Katie Bentley says
Catherine, although we have no affiliation with Sanford-Brown, many other students we have spoken to about this, have gone through Parchment Express to get their transcripts. If this is already who you have been going through I would say to contact Sanford-Brown at the appropriate student records request office to speak to them directly. Here is the link you can follow to find that contact information https://www.sanfordbrown.edu/student-life/student-record-requests
Best of luck!
Dawn Wolff says
Catherine,
I’m sorry for your experience. Unfortunately, we are not affiliated with the college. The only suggestion I do have is to continue to contact the school and/or contact Career Education Corporation and ask to file a complaint due to lack of response from the campus.
I wish you luck.
Heidi says
I am currently in externship for the Vet Tech program. I have already been hired at the hospital I am externing at. I LOVED my instructors and they really cared about us. I worked hard and will take the VTNE in November 2015.
Katie Bentley says
Heidi, good luck with the rest of your externship! Glad to hear everything has worked out for you!
lillian serrano says
Katie,
Although my daughter completed her course and does have a loan to repay,I find it completely unfair that NO graduation ceremony will take place this June for the graduating class(cancelled, it was June 5). These students deserve recognition for their hard work and a sense of accomplishment. Very sad that they couldnt even come up with a few hours of appreciation towards these students that ultimately paid the school for their services. Disappointing to say the least.
Katie Bentley says
Hey there Lillian, your daughter does deserve recognition for her accomplishment! It’s a shame for everyone involved in this situation and I’m sorry to hear that you and your daughter are a part of it. We would be happy to speak to your daughter about taking care of the student loan she has. Unfortunately, the loan companies don’t mind if there was a graduation ceremony or not, they will come to collect their money either way… We would love to help your daughter get into a position where she can easily accomplish her student loans as well! –And the recognition she would receive for that is keeping more cash in her pockets 😉 Contact our Senior Collegiate Loan Counselor, Dawn Wolff for more info at 813.579.6588
Adrien says
I feel I am in the same boat as many of you. I went to SBI for CVT and was not able to pass the certification test after graduating with high honors, now I am stuck with a huge dept of student loans that I have to pay back for a field that I can’t work in.
Katie Bentley says
Adrien- sadly, you are not alone. There are several options that you can qualify for to help you lower or get out of your debt! Please give us a call today so we can help you with your student loan debt you were left with. Toll free 813-579-6588.
Sheila says
How sad. I attended a small campus in St. Ann, MO before they even started the medical programs. Tuition was very affordable, and career assistance was wonderful! I had the kindest and most influential teachers when I attended. It sounds like they down the “big business” road with dollar signs in their eyes. Good luck to everyone effected.
Katie Bentley says
Hey Sheila, I’m glad you got through your schooling with no trouble. Unfortunately, private colleges and institutions have become a very pricey outlet for students to take towards getting a degree. With this in mind, our mission is to notify all those eligible of the tools they can utilize to help themselves out of their student loan debt, to help improve their financial well-being as a whole.
Courtney says
The SBC I went to already closed and has been demolished and I still have yet to receive my diploma even though I graduated and completed my program in 2011. I’m not sure of what I should do to get proof that I’ve completed the program. I’ve already paid over $7000 in loans back and still have nothing to show for it.
Katie Bentley says
Hi Courtney, we aren’t affiliated with Sanford-Brown so I cannot say for sure what the best thing for you to do is, however, if I were in your position, I would try and reach out to the Career Education Corporation (parent company of SBC) and see how they can help you. Here is their contact page https://www.careered.com/About-Career-Education/Contact-Us
Please contact us directly for help with your student loans. There are options that several Sanford-Brown students and graduates are utilizing to lower or eliminate their student loan debt. Contact us toll free at 813-579-6588 or visit https://usstudentloancenter.org/sb-qualify-now to begin discussing your options with a Student Loan Counselor
Angela says
I went to Sandford-Brown College, and feel that they could have done more to help find position in the medical billing field. I had to move out of state completely to find a position in this field (which I found out later was of no use) … I have went back to college and graduate this Friday with a BS in Health Information Management. I am now paying off my loans for my BS and for the ‘certificate’ I got in medical coding and billing.
Dawn Wolff says
Angela,
Congratulations on taking control of your education….and on your graduation!
Please reach out to us to see what options are available in regards to your student loans. You can email me a good contact number or you can call us directly. 813.579.6588 dwolff@ussstudentloancenter.org
Mike says
Katie, did you graduate from Sanford Brown? The number of times you typed “here” when you ment “hear” is enough for me to question certain validities.
I went to Western School of Health and Business. They were owned by the same company that owns S&B. I went through the same problems with that school that I am hearing on here.(see how that works?) I wonder how a corporation like this can screw up and break laws, change the name and reopen under a new one and continue the same poor practices? Whose job I’d it to prevent this kind of continued betrayal if its students? You seen to offer help with loans, but that means I’m paying to a company that didn’t provide me with promised services, and by no means should we have to pay these debts. How can you help us with that?
Katie Bentley says
Hey Mike, I appreciate your grammar lesson but please be so kind to excuse the time I mistakenly wrote out the wrong form of “here” and “hear” in the comments section of this post. People that graduated from FSU can make grammer(see what I did there?) mistakes too 😛 haha
While we provide help to those struggling with student loan debt, we can only go as far to follow federal guidelines set under the Department of Education. Since the money borrowed is federally loaned, we must abide by federal laws. With that being said, we do not have the power to fully extinguish your debt from existence right now, but we can help set you on a course to better your overall student loan situation. This may come in the form of a lower student loan payment, student loan forgiveness, a student loan consolidation, or several other options that are designed to best fit a client’s needs. In order to provide our clients with the best service possible, we go through an initial consultation to see what a client’s needs are and how they may best utilize our help. I encourage you to see for yourself (obligation free) how you may benefit from one of these services. Feel free to reach out to a Student Loan Counselor at 813.579.6588. Best of luck to you.
Terry Duszik says
I deserve a write off on this loan since 8 years later no job and I was fraudulently lied to in signing documents. This school sucks.
Katie Bentley says
Terry, I understand your frustration. I’m sorry you are feeling this way. Please give us a call toll-free at 813.579.6588 to speak to a counselor as you may qualify for student loan repayment options that can help you. Thanks!
Tasha says
Same way I feel Terry Duszik….smh 8 yrs later still no dang on job nd still these loans…they need to write it off! School was highway robbery! Smfh lied saying they will help me gain employment and never did! Waste!
Terry Duszik says
IM SOOOO GLAD THERE CLOSING.
this school ripped me off, put me in debt and NEVER helped me at all. Before I signed up I told them I was a poor person with no money and unless they could gaurentee me help with a job and financial help I COULD NOT DO IT. They PROMISED ME HELP AND SAID THEY WOULD get me a job. And I would receive financial assistance.
Well if I got financial assistance then why do I still owe $12000 dollars when that’s what it cost. And after I finished with my course + medical billing) they never helped me in job search. They also put me in a free clinic that does not hire for my internship. I begged them to place me somewhere wrrr i could possibly be hired. They didnt care.
They BLUE me off once they got all there money. Not to mention said it was easy to get a job in medical billing. BULLSHIT! EVERY JOB I APPLIED FOR WANTED 3 OR MORE YEARS EXPERIENCE. SO NO LUCK IN THIS COURSE. 8years later and I still can’t even get an interview without having experience.
They said and lied about everything to me just to get me to sign up. THIS SCHOOL SUCKS, LIES, AND WILL RIP U OFF.
IM SO GLAD THEIR CLOSING. PAY BACKS ARE A BITCH. AND I WILL NEVET PAY BACK THAT DIRYY MONEY.
Deborah Gilliam says
Terry I definitely feel your pain. The same exact thing happened to me. They promised me a job,when I graduated but nothing. Your right, you do have to have at least 2 to 3 years of experience. You might have to apply for a medical records administrator. I am so sorry, but that happened to me to..that school is just a ripp off.
Ashley Sallee says
Darbi for transcripts requests i had to go through parchment express to order them because the SBI site i attended in Bristol, PA had closed down already. Its $10per copy i think
Katie Bentley says
Thank you for your insight, Ashley!
Daniel says
ok unfortunately I agree with most of the current and former students. I had a horrible experience with the staff but the faculty was amazing. My instructors were amazing and truly cared. The lady I spoke to about enrolling lied, at the end of the meeting I asked her if Pharmacy Technicians could still just take the PTCB with out going to school and she told me that in the state of Texas it was mandatory to attend school. Now I’m in $16,000 in student loans, but needless to say that woman and the entire staff including the campus president were fired and replaced. I never received my official “degree” just a printed computer copy saying I completed my course. Plus I was told that our IV certification never expires and just found out it expired years ago, as dumb as it sounds I never questioned it bc I trusted the employees and staff at that time. I have never felt comfortable recommending this institution to people that have asked if they should attend and am pretty sure the school name has prevented me from getting hospital jobs I have applied for. Good luck to all who are going to go through this horrible transition
Katie Bentley says
I’m sorry to hear you were going through that, Daniel. I can imagine your frustration with it. Don’t get down on yourself for “taking their word for it”. After all, staff is supposed to help guide you to your best educational future. It’s what they are paid to do! While your time with Sanford-Brown left you with student loan debt, there could be help to get you out of that debt. Please give us a call at 813.579.6588 to discuss your options. Best of luck to you!
alisha says
This “school” was a joke they never helped me with my externship and then kicked me out because I didn’t extern anywhere when I was told from the start that’s what they would help me with
!! But still have to pay everything back with no certificate or anything!! I’m glad their closing!!
Katie Bentley says
Alisha, thank you for commenting and I’m sorry for your frustrations! Please give us a call to discuss help in paying back your student loans. You can reach us toll-free at 813.579.6588
Donna says
I never got my certificate from the Houston north loop campus! Plus my dialysis tech schooling is not creditable with the Ohio board of nursing! I’m out all the money for this what a joke in was lied to and told this certificate was good in Ohio what a waste of my time and money for 13 months
Katie Bentley says
Donna, thank you for commenting and I’m so sorry for your frustrations! Please give us a call to discuss paying back your student loans as you may qualify for help. You can reach us toll-free at 813.579.6588. Best of luck!!
priscilla says
This college is awful…..I hope they close their doors in TX. This school takes advanage of their students and money. I went there and they did not help me find a job nor have I yet receive my certificate of completion. I walked the stage and was handed nothing bUT an empty envelope. Then when I went up there to get one they wanted to charge me ….good written SBI/SBC
Katie Bentley says
Priscilla, Thanks for commenting and I’m sorry to hear about your experience with the school. Sadly, you are not the only one to carry this opinion… If you have been stuck paying on your student loans that you accrued while in school please contact Senior Loan Counselor, Dawn Wolff at dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org or call us toll-free at 813.579.6588 to discuss repayment options that could help you.
Howard Rains says
I graduated from Sanford Brown’s ADN program in 1994. Unfortunately, I still can’t get accepted to most BSN programs because my program was never accredited.
Katie Bentley says
Hi Howard, I’m sorry to hear that you too had trouble with your degree. Sadly, there are hundreds of others experiencing the same results. Hopefully this will become less of a problem in the future with the CECO re-focusing on the universities it holds.
Sunny bell says
I’ve been dealing with this damn school since 2007. I graduated from Lpn program 2004. Did my RN program up to every class and clinical and they lost accreditation before I could test. So 25,000 in RN loans and no degree. What a joke!!!
Katie Bentley says
Sadly, you aren’t the only one I have heard this from today. I’m sorry to hear about the trouble you’re facing with your accreditation, Sunny. I encourage you to reach out to us for help with the loans that you have been stuck dealing with. There could be massive help that you qualify for. Reach us directly at 813.579.6588
Amanda Jackson says
I graduated (with honors BTW) from Sanford Brown in St. Louis in August 2011 for Radiography, passed all my registries, first time. Still don’t have a job, places do not want Sanford Brown grads AT ALL. In fact, I got told that by a BIG hospital in my last round of clincals. Told, “We just don’t hire people who went there, you’re a good person and know what you’re doing, but out hospital just doesn’t allow it. Maybe you should lie on your resume elsewhere. You know, since we know where you sent to school.” Only 3 people in my class ever found a job.
Katie Bentley says
Amanda, wow. That is sincerely troubling to hear. I am so sorry that this is happening to you. It’s completely unfair, and perhaps the closing of the school is, in hindsight- a good thing. In the meantime, I encourage you to not give up on your goal. Please contact us if we can be of any assistance to you in regards to student loans you may have gotten stuck with. We have helped hundreds get control of their student loan debt and we are eager to help all of those we can who have been effected by Sanford-Brown. Call Toll free 813.579.6588 or contact dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org for help. Best of luck!!
Robin Nagel says
Amanda, I am so sorry that everyone is having to go through this. I too graduated from Sanford Brown in Fenton but I was one of the lucky ones. The right people in the right places at the right time makes a major difference. I am going to suggest that you get in contact with a medical temp service called MED (Medical Employment Directory). Last I checked they are still operating and can contact them at 314-434-7800. At least it would get your foot in the door. Good luck to you.
Amanda Jackson says
Thank you for the replies, but I have no interest in trying anymore. I have a better job, not in the medical field, not where I wanted to be, but I don’t hate it, and I make WAY more than I would if I started all over in the medical field. So it was a huge waste of my time, money, and effort.
Katie Bentley says
Unfortunate for the way you ended up there but I am so glad to hear you are now in a better position where you feel more confident and stable! Please don’t hesitate to contact us if we can be of any assistance to you in the future. Best of luck with all that you do!
Shahid says
I graduated in 2010 from Sanford Brown College of Atlanta, struggling to pay back the student loan. I’m still trying to pass board tests, and therefore have 3 questions:1) If I pass the board test, will it be possible to get hired looking at this situation and name of Sanford Brown College? 2) After shut down, they say they will be providing a central alumni services, does it hold true? 3) What about student loans due to Sanford Brown College on my head, do the students will get any special considerations?
Thanks
Shahid
Katie Bentley says
Hi Shahid,
These are 3 excellent questions. Thank you for asking! To answer your questions one-by-one, 1) Although we are not affiliated with Sanford-Brown, we can say that Sanford-Brown continues to be accredited, which means your degree is valid when you pass your boards. That said, as with any college degree, it is up to the receiving institution if it chooses to accept the credits or not. The same goes with an employer.
2) Again, since we are not affiliated with the school, I cannot say for sure if a central alumni service is true or not. I would say that it probably would depend on who told you that it was happening. There is a current Alumni Service set up for Sanford-Brown but whether or not it will remain in service after the shut down is questionable. Sanford-Brown is re-focusing on their universities (Colorado Technical University (CTU) and American InterContinental University (AIU)). My hope, if they do discontinue their current alumni service, is that they may dissolve the service into the existing alumni services of the affiliated universities; however, I am in no position to say one way or the other. In other words, I unfortunately do not know. Sorry :/ If I uncover the true answer to your question I will certainly come back and let you know!
3) Sadly, just because the Sanford-Brown campuses are closing down, doesn’t mean that a person is free of the debt that they accrued while attending the school. There are several different options in which you may utilize as far as repayment of and solutions to your student loan debt. Please give Loan Counselor, Dawn Wolff a call to discuss your options. Her direct line is 813.579.6588 and email is dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org and she will be happy to assist you!
Best of luck, Shahid!
jeff says
So, where does a graduated student go for a free refresher course? Is the diploma/degree still recognized? Seems like everything is taken away except for the student loans. Sounds like it’s a way to scam people out of thousands of dollars.
Katie Bentley says
Jeff, it may certainly appear that way to some! I can understand why the CECO made this decision, but I believe it to be extremely unfair to those students like yourself who are left wondering. While we are not affiliated with Sanford-Brown, we can say that Sanford-Brown continues to be accredited, which means your degree is valid. You may do well to contact Sanford-Brown directly to see what kind of help is available in regards to a refresher course. If I was in your position, I would also weigh my options in finding a refresher course at a different institution, if none are available from S-B. If you take this route, I would not be surprised if you had a more difficult time finding a “free” course but public community colleges and local universities often offer lower priced courses that are available.
sarah says
The school is a joke. I know of a teacher that was sleeping with students. I know this because I was one of them. Me and 2 class mates would have to fight for other students to be quite so we could listen. Ghetto brown is what it should be called. An no that is not a racial slur
khadizia says
Whatever , i graduated in January 2014 and Paid Back My Loan Like I Was Suppose To. I Got My Job In The Medical Field And Currently Using My Sanford Brown Accreditation In The Army.
Thank You Sanford Brown College Atlanta. For Giving Me A New Beginning.
Katie Bentley says
Glad to hear it all worked out for you!
Monica Bledsoe says
While I can’t comment on all Sanford Browns I do know that the ones in and around Saint Louis, MO do have colleges and universities that recognize Sanford Brown credits. One is Lindenwood University and the other is Webster University. I know because numerous classmates of mine furthered their education after receiving their Bachelors degree in Business Management with a Concentration in Accounting. So my thing is just like any other online or for profit university it’s not just what they provide but what you do with your education and skills. Also, if you attended Sanford Brown and feel your credits aren’t transferable you should contact their other universities like Colorado Tech and enroll in online classes to at least finish your degree. Best of Luck
Katie Bentley says
Hi Monica, thank you for your insight!
andrea says
I still have to pay my student loans? Ugh i should have liatened to the teacher on day three when he told me to leave and go to a university! What a joke!
Katie Bentley says
Andrea,
Unfortunately yes. You still will have the responsibility of paying back your student loans. However, the teach-out and eventual discontinuation of Sanford-Brown is an opportunity for the current and former students of Sanford-Brown to utilize government repayment options. They are specific to fit your needs. There are several different options and everyone needs are different when it comes student loans so my advice is to directly speak to a Student Loan Counselor to go over exactly how you may best be served. You can reach them toll free at 813.579.6588… trust me, you aren’t the only one who has felt “fooled” by Sanford-Brown, But there is hope for you!
tara says
What a load of bs. Sanford brown is not considered a college by any institutions other than themselves. The credits and “degrees” you spend a fortune to earn are useless and non transferrable meaning you can find work and an employer will respect them but that’s it. Most other technical institutions will not honor your credits, nor will any state or county colleges, as well as private colleges. In other words any class’s you take here will have to be re-take elsewhere if you decide to continue you education in your chosen field. They are scam artists of the lowest sort feeding off individuals who want better for themselves.
luann says
Im goiNguyen through that now.none of my so called college credits are excepted at my state college.and they want me to pay them 13,650.for what.I learned everything on my own when I did my extern ship.all my books were incorrect up untill the last month but they want me to pay them
Katie Bentley says
Luann, there are many just like you in similar situations. Unfortunately, it is the institution’s choice to accept or deny credits of any different, previous institution. I am sorry to hear that you’re dealing with this frustration. Please contact us if we can be of any help with your $13, 650 they are still asking you to pay back. You could qualify for different options of a lower payment, forgiveness, and other beneficial factors. You can reach us toll-free at 813.579.6588 Best of luck and hope to hear from you!
Katie Bentley says
Tara,
I am truly sorry this has been your experience. We are not affiliated with Sanford Brown or it’s parent company. We have been helping Sanford Brown students (past and present) find options in regards to the repayment of their student loans.
Sadly, your story is not unique as we do hear similar nightmare stories each day. That said, we also hear the opposite in that graduates are working and/or have continued their education by transferring credits elsewhere. The Department of Education actually sets the standards for transfer credit by stating it is up to the receiving institution if credits are transferable or not.
Again, we are sorry for your experience. What we can do is help you in taking control over your student loans and see what options are available to you. Feel free to reach out to me directly to explore options. dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
Berry Valentine says
More Info Please.
Katie Bentley says
Hi Berry,
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We’d be happy to go over any information you’re looking for! Please feel free to give us a call at 813.579.6588 or send your contact info to kbentley@usstudentloancenter.org so we can give you a call 🙂
james says
So what about the people that graduated from Sanford Brown and trying to pay their school loan off?
Katie Bentley says
Hi James, because you have already graduated, the news of the school closing may not effect you AS MUCH. I am sure the closing of the school will effect current and former students in different ways, but a good majority might feel the negative effects more than others. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t any help for you with your student loans. If you are already paying your loans back, double check to see that you are in the best situation. If you haven’t started paying your loans yet, get yourself in the best situation before you come out of grace period. You can always give us a call for some extra tips and advice 813.579.6588
luann says
What about the loans the rest of us owe that was screwed over by them.none of the college credits I so called earned there are good anywhere else.my state college doesnt except there credits so i have to take several classes again
Katie Bentley says
Luann, please contact us to discuss the options you have with your student loans. There are several different available programs you may qualify for. Contact us toll free at 813.579.6588
Katie Bentley says
Hi James, this is a good question. Please contact us to discuss options in paying off your student loans. We would love to help get you in the right situation for you. Contact us at 813.579.6588 or email at dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org. Thank you!
tia english says
Well i’m a graduate of Sanford Brown in Nyc class of 04-05 and i still have a loan that i cant pay back and i feel like they are a set up because they don’t help you when it comes to job placement i feel the career developer Rosie only helps the Spanish students get jobs they purposely put the black students in internships that don’t hire and the Spanish girls in internships that hire even those that didn’t even finish get hired i know a lot of black girls that attended Sanford Brown on 16th St. NYC during my time and after that had to go into different professions cause they couldn’t find a job cause they didn’t have 6-12 month experience i think this whole thing was a conspiracy from the Begining and i feel our student loans repayment should be eliminated cause lots of us don’t have the jobs we trained for its a waste if you look up the employment rate from the classes from 04 till present just count how blacks actually got jobs then count how many Spanish got jobs and even the ones that got hired before they even finished the course and you will see what i’m talking about they teach well but everything else sucks i wouldn’t recommend them to anybody they cost to much and you don’t wind up with a job just a bill especially if you are black it sad but true so do your research
Carolyn says
This is truly a mess cause I attended years ago in 1999-2000 & I feel like we weren’t fully taught everything and had an harhard time passing my boards…My friend,never passed hers either & neither did I….. She ended up attending another nursing college making a new loan but did n return pass her boards… This was a misleading situation cause u couldn’t come back for refresher courses without paying…. We weren’t IV certified and had to pay large amounts of $ to do so….I’m in debt now cause of them but I had too get a forgiveness under medical purpose… So now I can never return back to work n my field. So how do u fix that?
Katie Bentley says
Carolyn, I am very sorry to hear about how mislead you and your friend were. You will be happy to know that we have helped thousands like you that were experiencing similar feelings. I wouldn’t know for sure until you speak to a student loan counselor who could dive deeper into your situation, but if you are under a forgiveness program now, it sounds like you might be in a situation that will help you the best. However please do not take my word for it. Find out for sure. You will only be thanking yourself for double checking and you may even find out that there are different types of forgiveness you could also be utilizing. You can double check with a counselor at 813.579.6588. Best of luck!
Christina Wooff says
I graduated 20 years ago and never received my degree on paper. I want to know how u can get it or who to reach if I need to find out where I may need to prove that I graduated from there.
Katie Bentley says
Hi Christina, my advice would be to contact the campus location that you attended first. They should hold your records there and be able to prove that you attended the college. If you need to be “re-certified”, you may be advised by them to re-enroll to take refresher courses. If this happens, my advice is to proceed cautiously. Sanford-Brown has accreditation issues with certain career fields and the recent news of them closing down, certainly won’t help that issue. Depending on what they tell you, please take the time to do research on all options. Best of luck!
Julie Gabarik says
Hi, So I graduated in March of 2014. We found the Middleburg hts location would be shutting down in the middle of my program. Now 1 year later, I am still struggling to find an MA job (which is what I went for). Would be easier if I went to another school and redid the course? And how do I go about getting a portion of my loan forgiven? The struggle isn’t fair to pay back the whole loan if taking the program has gotten me no where in the last year. Please email me back.
Katie Bentley says
Hi Julie,
We are not a college, therefore, speaking to your return to school or not would not fall in to our area of expertise.
In regards to your student loans, I can look in to your specific situation. Please email me with your contact information so that we can go through options available. My email address is dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
David Krueger says
How does this affect students who have already graduated? I graduated in 2010 and want to know if my degree is still valid.
Katie Bentley says
Hi David,
The good news is yes…your degree is absolutely valid. Sanford Brown was and is accredited. They are currently teaching out the remainder of their programs. Your education is one of the few things that cannot be taken from you. You earned your degree!! Congrats!!
In regards to your student loans, let’s look in to your specific situation together. Please feel free to email me your contact information and a good time to reach out to you. My email address is
dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
traci says
Came back to the school to take another course. Director of education never filled out proper paperwork for my fincial aid. Thrn today i get an email that i was withdrawn and by the way im not i go back to classes on Monday
Katie Bentley says
Traci,
By the sounds of it, you have outstanding student loans? Please reach out to me directly so we can look in to your specific situation. I will have a Senior Loan Counselor look in to all of the options available to you.
dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
js says
if they teach Out students wIll still graduAte. Can’t touch there loans until they are out. They won’t enroll new students,cec has other schools.
Katie Bentley says
JS,
You are correct. If the students decide to continue and do not drop to less than half time….but there are many “ifs”. Students and graduates should explore all of their options.
What we are hearing is that although there are options to transfer to other CEC schools…there have been so many significant changes over the past few years within CEC, students have lost their trust.
We are here to assist students, past and present, to uncover options available to them in regards to their student loans.
caralynn says
I graduated from there and I found out that nobody would hire me because the school was not accredited. Also all my professors were fired or quit so most of my classes were done at home. Now I have $20,000 in loans that I have to pay back and it was a waste of time. What am I supposed to do?
Dawn Wolff says
Caralynn,
Please reach out to us so we can look in to options available for your student loans. You can email me directly and/or call. dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
813.579.6588
Darbi Clementz Hixson says
How will this affect former students, who may have transcript requests/needs, etc. ?
Katie Bentley says
Darbi,
We can only assist in regards to options for student loans. In regards to transcript request, etc, please contact the school directly. Important to note, even in the event the school would close immediately (in the case of Sanford Brown they are teaching out over the next 18-36 months)….transcripts will continue to be handled. Typically if a school completely closes, the college will have a National Clearinghouse of sorts continue to maintain transcript requests…so in regards to that, you have no worries.
Please reach out directly to us to see what options are available for your student loans.
dwolff@usstudentloancenter.org
Liz Malcolm says
More information please
Katie Bentley says
Hi Liz! I’d happy to answer any of your questions to my full potential. If you would rather go over your questions privately, feel free to contact us toll-free to speak to a counselor at 813.579.6588 or I will gladly pass on your contact information so a counselor can reach out to you at your convenience. You can email your contact info directly to me at kbentley@usstudentloancenter.org. Hope to hear from you soon!
Joyann says
I also attended this place is went to sandford-Brown in 2010 and before i started I told the lady that I did not want a student loan and that’s when she told me about the Pell grant and she said that it wasn’t a loan because I didn’t want to be paying back no loan forever so I agreed to the Pell grant and now they want me to pay back for a damn student loan that I did not ask for what can I do about this before they take another income tax from me.
Katie Bentley says
Hey Joyann,
Thanks for commenting. Pell Grants are different from student loans. The lady you spoke with was right in that you don’t have to pay back a grant, but you may have unknowingly signed something in the process that accredited you a student loan as well. It wouldn’t be the first time that this has happened. Give us a call today at 877.433.7501 (option 3) to speak to a Counselor who can go over your situation in detail with you and discuss your options for getting rid of this student loan you have.
Talk soon!
Katie